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Minigames suggestions - Revamp Minigames

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Sweet a long mg post to make a short reply to!

1. New AC: This is probably a good idea, simply based on the cases you've stated it will not hurt to try something different if someone is willing to put in the effort to actually get it configured and working. As can be clearly figured out by yourself, MDX has been around for a long time so we can safely say exploits and ways to avoid detection probably exist within cheats geared towards specifically cheating by using strafe hacks and bhops (which I would hope that strafe hacks are), so honestly it's probably not a bad idea to simply have something different if only to try to catch those unaware. If what you are suggesting about rampant strafe hacks is true, it will prove effective in proving the case of needing a better working AC for bhopping/strafing. (Or at least deter from further abuse of said strafe hacks.)

2. Removing SourceTV: This one is just a straight up good idea. While it was well intentioned to help catch hackers late night with no mods on, sadly there is no population on for it to properly watch and be useful, and if the negative drawbacks are causing server slowdown it's not worth the hassle. There's really not much to say here aside from if someone can actually make a good solid case to keep it I would love to hear it.

3. Map changes: I agree with all of the removals, while I disagree with some of the maps you called good it's personal taste (where is nipperhouse or hell even oaks minigames :c), all of those are popular mg maps and do typically lead to population as long as someones on to play against. I would love to see the MG map pool actually be voted on monthly or at least logged to see what maps are popular and allow small injections bi-monthly of maps voted on my active MG players to introduce new maps into the pool safely instead of the typical copy paste dump and hope people enjoy them. Maybe someone somewhere can figure this out doesn’t sound like a bad idea at least on paper….

4. Optimization: Would love to see what you think you can improve here, sadly any talk directed at this topic is purely speculation. If you’ve got any specific ideas I’d love to hear them.

4.1? Respawn: Personally I think this should have been around at the start but, I can see why people would disagree. It should be added to reduce the infuriating chance to get doored on most maps. Noone likes to die at the start of the round due to a physics issue so introducing respawns under certain conditions such as: start of the round death, late spawn by seconds, gravity clipping/kills would be a good change to the server simply in general.

Clearly most of these ideas are coming from someone with at least a small inkling of care for the server and as I’ve not seen any major changes to mg in quite a while maybe this will be a refreshing change to see happen. Hell it may even be what it needs to actually be populated again.

now to go back to that hole of a void that I don't contribute from....
 

 

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I agree with tommy on the majority of the things he's saying just because it would benefit the quality of life of the server and make less of reason for people to leave and de pop just cause of bugs and such.

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Yeaaaahhhhh....

Good luck getting anyone to do any of this....

/shrug

^_^

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I think they would rather delete MG than make all these changes.

 

But in all seriousness, MG has so many bugs. This is just a couple of easy steps to make the server better than ever, and hopefully populate it again.

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2 hours ago, Noob said:

Yeaaaahhhhh....

Good luck getting anyone to do any of this....

/shrug

^_^

its almost as if tommy could do it all  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Actually, looking at what you've suggested it really all does make sense. Popular maps, a new anti cheat, and respawning? It just sounds like a whole new MG. I hope someone really does look into adding, removing what tommy has suggested.

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4 hours ago, Noob said:

Yeaaaahhhhh....

Good luck getting anyone to do any of this....

/shrug

^_^

naright

1 hour ago, HunterX848 said:

its almost as if tommy could do it all  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

In all seriousness tho, I could. I've helped 2 different communities before. Hell on earth, and NGG/NXG. ( dev'd a bhop server for HoE, many bug fixes, dev'd a lot of the NXG shit) I find server dev'ing extremely easy, and fun. 

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6 hours ago, Hextic said:

Sweet a long mg post to make a short reply to!


4. Optimization: Would love to see what you think you can improve here, sadly any talk directed at this topic is purely speculation. If you’ve got any specific ideas I’d love to hear them.
Clearly most of these ideas are coming from someone with at least a small inkling of care for the server and as I’ve not seen any major changes to mg in quite a while maybe this will be a refreshing change to see happen. Hell it may even be what it needs to actually be populated again.

now to go back to that hole of a void that I don't contribute from....
 

 

guy says long post for a short reply and writes this kek

Removing unnecessary plugins, broken maps etc just genuinely fixing what's broken on the server. 

and yes. Most of my hours on CSS is on MG or surf, and surf is deaddead but MG ain't there yet. just want to help and make MG great again.

 

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3 hours ago, HunterX848 said:

its almost as if tommy could do it all  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm sure tommy could do it. But it's not me that needs convincing to give access to do that. 

That would be Glow. Lol. 

Good luck. 

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Posted (edited)

You can fuck right off with removing mg_remsopor_encore and mg_ifionly. I don't mind the removal of my maps but that's a no no.

Also I don't think it'll improve or hinder the gameplay, if people don't like something then RTV thats imo.

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Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, plum/moofinz said:

You can fuck right off with removing mg_remsopor_encore and mg_ifionly. I don't mind the removal of my maps but that's a no no.

Also I don't think it'll improve or hinder the gameplay, if people don't like something then RTV thats imo.

Plum I find the map extremely fun, however, people that aren't as good as the usual MG player isn't able to beat it. it's just boring for players who aren't as skilled as a regular course map player. 

Removing maps that arent as popular as the others makes complete sense in my eyes. Especially with the high ass recently played shit taking 6-7 maps to allow you to play on previous maps. 

idk, why would people want maps that they don't play? popular course maps exist and there all classics. Gore course, nimafa, office etc. people stay on those ones. but from past experience, I don't really see people stay on for remsopor (or the other hard maps) unless it's all the skilled players. lewis, myself, ryze, hunter, you, etc... 

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I agree with the map changes. Removing the maps that are broken and just unwanted/not played would possibly improve the server and make it more enjoyable for all

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Long, boring course maps do not belong in a Minigames server, that is a point I strongly agree with. This post is an excellent summary of improvements that the Minigames server currently needs.

However,

How dare you even suggest to remove test_speakers and test_hardware.

They are by far the best maps currently in rotation. The removal of those maps would be detrimental to the future of the Minigames server, and potentally even GamePunch entirely.

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5 hours ago, tommy said:

Plum I find the map extremely fun, however, people that aren't as good as the usual MG player isn't able to beat it. it's just boring for players who aren't as skilled as a regular course map player. 

Removing maps that arent as popular as the others makes complete sense in my eyes. Especially with the high ass recently played shit taking 6-7 maps to allow you to play on previous maps. 

idk, why would people want maps that they don't play? popular course maps exist and there all classics. Gore course, nimafa, office etc. people stay on those ones. but from past experience, I don't really see people stay on for remsopor (or the other hard maps) unless it's all the skilled players. lewis, myself, ryze, hunter, you, etc... 

encore is a classic, you've just not seen people play it lately because not many people are playing minigames lately. encore is one of my favourite all time favourites i'd play back in the day, it is a popular map its just minigames is not popular as it was so its not showing visible proof its currently 'popular', you could says this for a large majority of these maps too.

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Great suggestions from everyone. I do agree with have a bunch of unplayed maps that need to just be removed. I will look into replacing MDX with your suggestion.  SourceTV will be removed as well as it's not being used.

Not sure why !jbskins is on MG. I will also take a look at that.

Thank you everyone.

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Posted (edited)

Another command we need is sm_teleport.

 

It allows admins to teleport people.

In knife arenas some of them break, not letting people in. admins should be able to !teleport players into the arena. it stops from the round turning to shit.

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Update: SourceTV has been removed (or should be). 

Also surfing should be smooth(er) on MG and JB as well with a plugin fix.

Oryx is currently being looked at and will be tested on MG before implemented community-wide. This will be a slower process as I want to make everything is set up correctly and that this is infact better than Macrodox. 

I will post another update when it has been implemented and tested.

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Update: Will be testing Oryx on MG this weekend. Will let you guys know when it's up and running 

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Re: map cycle

More than likely I will remove all maps from MG and upload a new folder of maps this weekend as well. If someone wants to take the liberty to compile a nice folder of fun, enjoyable maps, please feel free and I will take a look at it.

If there's a map that you like that is no longer on MG, do not fret! It can always be added back. I'll update ya'll when this is done as well.

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